In Romans 1:18-32 Paul talks about the effects of sin on our knowledge of God and those effects are anything but pretty. As a matter of fact, anyone with a clear mind now should be diligent in understanding what Paul says here about sin's effects. It should terrify any obedient Christian. In effect, what it is saying is this: If you are reprobate you probably won't even know it. If you are reprobate you have already been turned over to your sin and warped/distorted thinking. You are already being punished for your sin. God has already cut you loose and you have crossed the event horizon of punishment. The point of no return. The only way you would ever be able to come back across this invisible boundary is if God Himself pulls you back in His mercy and grace.
The general understanding of the effect of sin on our knowledge of God is, in a word: “detrimental”. In the end it builds up God’s wrath on the unrighteousness which is not a real good place to be. I have chosen, more or less, a hybrid dialectic/antithetic comparison verse-by-verse where the verses were applicable as it helps address individual statements in particular verse. This also helps comparing the sin (cause) and the direct effect on humans (us).
(v. 18) …by their unrighteousness suppress the truth [Gk: aletheia]. (v.19) A truth that is “plain” and “God has shown it to them” so they are “without excuse”.
Andy’s Translation: God (Jesus) is truth (John 14:6 … I am the way, and the truth [Gk: aletheia], and the life). This is to be taken literally so they/we thereby suppress the knowledge of God by suppressing truth.
(v. 21) …although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him.
Andy’s Word’s: Intellectually they/we acknowledge that God exists as many do today but because of sin they did not acknowledge Him in the proper capacity as God, again we see a suppression of the proper reaction to a holy and omnipotent loving God which should’ve been worship and praise. Instead we have feigned/willful ignorance. Because of the above actions man/humans becomes futile in their thinking and their hearts are darkened [Gk: skotizo: obscured; reduced in clarity] (v. 21). Assuming this is the traditional Greek view of the heart this also is the center for where Greeks believed thought originate as both the heart and mind were believed to have been in the chest/breast area.
If they have already rejected God in their thinking as a result of sin, “Claiming to be wise, they became fools”. You cannot have real wisdom without a fear of God. Sinning people have little or no fear of God if they are rejecting God “since the fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline” Proverbs 1:7.
Once humans reach this point they have pretty much have gone AWOL (absent without the Lord) and have begun to rely on their own works and their own volition to get things thought out and to get things done. They become idolaters (v. 23). Humans are released to pursue the own vile dishonorable passions in a continuing downward spiral of sin and sexual immorality thereby receiving the penalty for their own sin and stupidity (v. 24, 26). They serve the creation rather than the Creator. God pretty much release them to pursue their own sin with their “reprobate” minds (v. 28) to pursue them to their meaningless end which is destruction in this world and damnation in the next (v. 32). They turned wholly evil “full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness” (v. 29). They turned into gossips, slanderers, haters of God…haughty, boastful…foolish, faithless, heartless, etc. ruthless.
Unable to think clearly or righteously they begin a downward spiral of sin further corroding any ability to think clearly. A circular trap of their own devising...of their own sin. A Black Hole of sin if you will.
So the answer to the question is this: A Reprobate never realizes he's reprobate unless God intervenes in mercy and grace. Otherwise the downward spiral continues unabated. They continue until they day they die. Consequently, death will not be a release or reprieve for these types of people because I believe God will just allow these reprobates to continue their sinful pursuits in Hell as they are never satiated with these sins or they would've never continued to pursue them during their lives. Think about it folks, what is Hell. A permament seperation from God. When people were/are dwelling and wallowing in their sin here, where were their hearts and minds in relation to God? Seperated from Him. Add them together and you have a place and conditon the never allows you to know full unadulterated happiness and you are seperated from God. You spend eternity pursuing something you think you want but can never have knowing full well that it probably may not be what is best for you anyway. Whats worse is the thing that you should've chose will be forever out of your reach. It sounds nearly Sisyphean to me...it sounds like Hell.
332 comments:
1 – 200 of 332 Newer› Newest»I was reprobated. It is a terrible state. No Hope unless God changes His mind about me. Polluted heart and mind.
I was too, I hate it, it is hell not to have love in your heart, but it's my fault
When I read the Bible, I can only find condemnation, and I am tormented by evil spirits
Romans 8:1-2 ~ "There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death."
Cowering in a corner, can't function
Are you okay?
No I'm not ok but I've done it to myself.Wish I was never born. Living in Hell before going to hell.I'm the worst reprobate your can imagine.
There is always forgiveness for those with a repentant heart. I've been in some serious screwed up situations in my 47 years including now in a broken marriage. I've seen low water marks...yet the boat has not totally sunk yet. I'll pray for you.
Demons and the demonic have no power over you in the name of Jesus Christ. Command them out in His name an truly believe and they will have no power over you.
I am diabolically evil and deserve what I am getting.
Anonymous, are you still there?
I believe that God has turned me over to a reprobate heart because of terrible sin that I left unrepented for over a decade. I have no joy. My chest feel hollow. I am at times taken over by a terrible fear and I wake up nightly from a nightmare of being told I am condemned. Please turn your life over to Jesus while you have the chance. Every word of the Bible is true. I just did not realize it until it was too late.
I know how you feel and I can't blame anyone but my self.
I am in torture and torment day and night. I can't function. Terror
Are you still there other anonymous commenters? There is someone on truthsaves blog that had something similar for 14 yrs & then came back to God.
Wonder, if people who feel think know that they might have/have crossed the line, if would help if those people prayed for mercy for each other. He'll when can't hear or feel God
Wonder, if people who feel think know that they might have/have crossed the line, if would help if those people prayed for mercy for each other. He'll when can't hear or feel God
Afraid I am there and pray for one last drop of blood grace to repent as I want God's love for me and to love again.
If you have any feelings at all of feeling sorry you sinned against God and want to love God and be loved by him seek his mercy and grace while you still have any Godly sorrow. Remorse and regrets won't help
If you have any feelings at all of feeling sorry you sinned against God and want to love God and be loved by him seek his mercy and grace while you still have any Godly sorrow. Remorse and regrets won't help
Have you come back Jerry? Why do you feel this way?
I am aware of past sins (some done without conscience) Each time gets easier. Always thought I was missing something. Serving ? God with works but not as son.Wanted to be saved from sins not in them (possible?) I go to church and tormented not a part. No joy or peace. Mind tormented. If past event horizon can only pray for one last drop of blood grace. Want to love God and hate sin.Praying without feeling and reading without revelation. Sometimes pain and torment unbearable like how long can I stay sane? If anyone reading this if feel any conviction at all fall on your face and repent and beg God to not let you go
I am aware of past sins (some done without conscience) Each time gets easier. Always thought I was missing something. Serving ? God with works but not as son.Wanted to be saved from sins not in them (possible?) I go to church and tormented not a part. No joy or peace. Mind tormented. If past event horizon can only pray for one last drop of blood grace. Want to love God and hate sin.Praying without feeling and reading without revelation. Sometimes pain and torment unbearable like how long can I stay sane? If anyone reading this if feel any conviction at all fall on your face and repent and beg God to not let you go
Past unrepentant sins.Each time with less conviction. Had serious remorse and regrets but want the sorrow that should be there by smacking Jesus in the face by using the cross to get forgiveness but not develop hatred if sin. Saved in my sins but not from. Tremendous regret or remorse but not Godly sorrow. Want the want to of hating sin and loving right. Either hurt so bad and tormented wonder if can keep sane or unfeeling and going through motions. If past event horizon can only pray one last drop of grace blood left. Anyone reading this if you have any convictions left fall on your face and praise God for his mercy
Past unrepentant sins.Each time with less conviction. Had serious remorse and regrets but want the sorrow that should be there by smacking Jesus in the face by using the cross to get forgiveness but not develop hatred if sin. Saved in my sins but not from. Tremendous regret or remorse but not Godly sorrow. Want the want to of hating sin and loving right. Either hurt so bad and tormented wonder if can keep sane or unfeeling and going through motions. If past event horizon can only pray one last drop of grace blood left. Anyone reading this if you have any convictions left fall on your face and praise God for his mercy
When you ask if I have come back do you mean to God? Do you have any understanding what it feels like to not feel God's love or not feel love for God and people? Pray you are someone who still serves God.
When you ask if I have come back do you mean to God? Do you have any understanding what it feels like to not feel God's love or not feel love for God and people? Pray you are someone who still serves God.
Ive read Repro1 profile on Experience Project & search his comments. He was spiritually dead for 14 years with daily torment. He tells on the Truthsaves sight under " I
think I lost my salvation" how things finally got turned around.
Have you talked with a pastor? Maybe you were never saved to begin with. Did anyone tell you how to get saved?Have you confessed the sins to someone else and talked to someone who could direct you in it?
How are you functioning? How are you able to go to church with feeling that way? Do you have family- what do they say about your situation?
Believe was saved long time ago. Have had God talk to me or do things but had habitual sexual sins and thoughts . Lost it. Became religious. Works in church. Life became a lie. Conviction less and less. Told a lie and more and more lies. Find confessing not a problem. Can't find Godly sorrow. Hatred of sin. Horror at sinning against God. Sometimes I miss his spirit and having love. Sometimes feel nothing and have no motivation. Sometimes struggle with staying sane and don't want to live. Noone to talk to. People talk about God's love and mercy but what if you wonder if you have exhausted that? Noone with any discernment but my fruits or lack enough. I want the want to. Lost a woman because she was Godly and my sins and lack of faith became apparent. Again can only pray there is one last drop of Christ's blood for me/one more hair like Samson. Know the word but didn't obey. Read about people the Bible warns about and judgment. Any last hope for me?
P S. Went to a mental hosp twice but they can't help. Wrong thinking but my issues spiritual.
P S. Went to a mental hosp twice but they can't help. Wrong thinking but my issues spiritual.
Believe was saved long time ago. Have had God talk to me or do things but had habitual sexual sins and thoughts . Lost it. Became religious. Works in church. Life became a lie. Conviction less and less. Told a lie and more and more lies. Find confessing not a problem. Can't find Godly sorrow. Hatred of sin. Horror at sinning against God. Sometimes I miss his spirit and having love. Sometimes feel nothing and have no motivation. Sometimes struggle with staying sane and don't want to live. Noone to talk to. People talk about God's love and mercy but what if you wonder if you have exhausted that? Noone with any discernment but my fruits or lack enough. I want the want to. Lost a woman because she was Godly and my sins and lack of faith became apparent. Again can only pray there is one last drop of Christ's blood for me/one more hair like Samson. Know the word but didn't obey. Read about people the Bible warns about and judgment. Any last hope for me?
Why is there no one to talk to? Get in touch with an Assembly of God pastor. You may not feel a certain way, because there has been those sins, but they can tell you the steps to take. It may take time til you have assurance. Maybe you need to get re-baptized, and ask pastor what you need to do. I'm not talking easy stuff, but you need to talk to a true Christian who hears from God.
The guy Repro on EP & truthsaves sight had 2 women who seek the Lord daily & hear from Him ask if they would pray for him & they did get answered prayer & told him what he needed to do. The women's names were Donna McDonald & Susan Davis- you can Google them under their names & prophecy. There are consequences as you know to sin, but maybe there is still hope for you.
What states do they live In?
Not sure, but they're on Facebook. Have you talked with a pastor?
Need to talk to someone with discernment. Don't need sugar coating. Trying to find someone who really hears from God. Hoping against hope. Thank you whoever you are for even responding
Need to talk to someone with discernment. Don't need sugar coating. Trying to find someone who really hears from God. Hoping against hope. Thank you whoever you are for even responding
Sure,its a horrendous place to be in. There are pastors, too that have a prayer life & are in the Word.You need someone Spirit-filled, and yes that doesn't sugar coat.
I don't know what denomination church you were in, but the Assembly of God churches believe in being Spirit filled. Google one in your area & ask to talk with pastor, or that you desperately need to talk/pray with someone & they could suggest who. It may be a deliverance minister.
Jerry, please post how things go.
Pray my ultimate end is to have things right with God
Yeah, please post when you get help. I know it is all consuming when you're not right with Him.
If you are a Bible believing Christian take any prayers Need to talk to someone that listens and understands
If you are a Bible believing Christian take any prayers Need to talk to someone that listens and understands
I hear you,you need a Pastor that won't sugar coat things, so you can get right with God and not just sympathy but true hope. Give one a call. Ask God if there's any chance & you know how wicked you've been, that He would lead you to the right one for whatever it takes.
I meant humbling yourself as far as the sin & knowing what you deserve, but keep trying to find someone to give Godly advice on what to do.
There may be discipline, but because of Jesus sacrifice there is forgiveness, when sins are repented of. You have to trust that His sacrifice covers all. It is enough.
I feel I need to clarify, the Bible says we all have sinned, so not trying to condemn you further(all deserve hell), but that's why don't give up.Remember John 3:16
Can't sleep or need medicine to do so. Cry sometimes but still can't find peace. No horror compares to not having Father Son relationship. Faith love trust obedience. Things should have nailed down long ago. Any discipline so long as mercy and grace.
Can't sleep or need medicine to do so. Cry sometimes but still can't find peace. No horror compares to not having Father Son relationship. Faith love trust obedience. Things should have nailed down long ago. Any discipline so long as mercy and grace.
Anyone reading this post. Has anyone felt they crossed the line and then through God's grace and mercy have their love and faith restored?
Anyone reading this post. Has anyone felt they crossed the line and then through God's grace and mercy have their love and faith restored?
Why don't you call one of the prayer lines ministries if you're too ashamed to go to a pastor. There are a number of them you can find online if you Google them.
Have you found someone to talk to?
I have talked to some but can't find an answer of peace. Faith? Sometimes not much feeling. Sometimes break down in tears. Still don't feel God or hear him. Grief of losing him
Thanks for asking. I need a bteakthrough
Jerry do you have a way to be contacted? I would like to talk to you, perhaps email?
jsorr1247@gmail.com.
jsorr1247@gmail.com.
Im trying to send it, having issues with it not sending, please be patient with me
Again don't know why taking personal interest. Pray love of Christ. jsorr1247@gmail.com. Could use an ear
One last comment. Desired to fear God but didn't with full heart because sins of mind and deed kept repeating. Praying I can still receive that fear and reverence and love. Has anyone reading this felt you were gone but God granted one more time of being restored and granted repentance and forgiveness and love again?
Did the commenter that asked for your contact info email you?
Yes they did and thankful but still need all the prayers anyone will offer up for me.
Jerry, is it possible you are having a hard time forgiving yourself? Once we confess our sins then God is faithful to cast them as far as the east is to the west. You are allowing condemnation to keep pullin you back. Lay this at the cross and dont pick it up again. You still want a relationship with the Lord and care about your salvation, that doesnt sound like someone that is reprobate, it sounds like satan is laying a guilt trip on you!!!
I was in this state for quite a few months but I sought the face of God and He heard me!!!
Are you finding some hope in all that's been shared?
Can't cry but constantly in dread and loss without peace. Want to repent. No love felt.
Can't find my breakthrough. Don't disobey God or ignore his warnings. Much more of this I will lose it!
Has anyone reading these comments found grace and mercy or know of anyone?
Has anyone reading these comments found grace and mercy or know of anyone?
I'm in the same position. What can we do to get back with God? Please help me! Am I doomed?
Help please
I'm looking for help
Are you still on here?
Are you still here?
Are you still here?
Jim im going through it. I have a pretty good understanding of what's happened. If you want to talk about it message me on tcriznik@yahoo.com
Sent you an email
Are you still here
i believe it is too late for me. People keep telling me that because i am concerned with my salvation that it is not too late for me but now i am starting to believe that God wants me to know that it is too late so i can live the rest of my days with dread as i wait until i go to hell a receive a punishment far worse than those who didn't know. How could i have done this? There is some hope in me but it may be from wishful thinking and out of selfishness. i don't deserve salvation. i spat in Jesus' face and put Him to shame so i could satisfy myself. Even as i typed that, i don't beleive i still understand how horrible i am. i thought that because i am still alive that i still am under the mercy of God and it's not to late but it probably is and i believe God wants me to know that. i am like the dog that runs back to it's vomit
Rybar im the same way
You realize this Jerry. My friend, this is demonic influence telling u that ur worthless, and that God has no place for you.... the thing is, if u have repentant heart, maybe you should get in your bible, and fast for several days. Let God have a chance man!!! If u desire Him, hold fast and search ask for help from other Christians. God bless you precious man
I have and do serve GOD but been married 3 times and so close to the woman at the well. I don't believe I am reprobate however I do feel I am not completely where I should be with YHWH and it hurts to know that I fail HIM. My concern is about generation curses with the generation at reprobate before you and so many generations cursed what do you do
I have and do serve GOD but been married 3 times and so close to the woman at the well. I don't believe I am reprobate however I do feel I am not completely where I should be with YHWH and it hurts to know that I fail HIM. My concern is about generation curses with the generation at reprobate before you and so many generations cursed what do you do
I know that the word says the son should not die for the sins of the father and vice versa but each person lives or dies by their own sins. Yes there are generational curses and what your parents do affect you but God being just and holy he would want you to know that you live or did unto your heavenly Father not your worldly. Christ died for you and only you can separate yourself.
Rybar are you still feeling the same way?
Jim, did you get help?
Jim, did you get any help?
What's in the heart of a reprobate? The bible tells us to guard our hearts, Proverbs 4:23. If you look inside your heart what do you see? How does it feel? A reprobate has a hard heart. If you remember when you were a child, your heart was not hard. That is the kind of heart God can live in. That kind of heart can be more loving, more gentle, more open and understanding, a listening heart.
This kind of heart is not proud, is not angry, not resentful, or filled with rage or sorrow. It doesn't want to die it wants to live. It wants to survive.
But not with a hard heart. Not with the heart of a reprobate. This heart wants to die because this heart has no life. It has no soul. It feels empty.
Is there any hope for a hard heart? A person with this kind of heart needs to want to change. You must make sacrifices and you must look for Him with as much open heart as you can."But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."Hebrews 11:6
Don't be proud and think that you can do this on your own. You are your worse enemy now. You open yourself up on devil's playground and let him play with you. Now you're held captive, in chains all done by you. God can't help no one who will not let themselves be free. Who wants to do bad because doing bad feels good. God cannot help those who do not acknowledge Him.
A reprobate chooses not to have faith in God, but faith is the only way to save him.
Are you still believing the same?
Did you find hope Jerry?
Iknow how these peoqle feel.I was saved years ago and lived for god but slowly sliped back into sin while i was still in church.left my wife and kids and lived with another woman.lived in a world of lust and pornagraphy.came back to the lord but went back again into sin all the while i was going to church.3months ago i believe i was visited and attacked by demons.they told me i had sinned away my chance to repent and be forgiven again.my pastor came to my house and prayed and the demons were cast out and i know the lord came and delivered me.ivd been free of lust since then,but im still griped with fear that god hasnt really forgiven me and that i had already been given up on by him.can i be reprobate if i have no desire to sin anymore and hate even the thought of it?
Anonymous,
Just keep in contact with your Pastor or another faithful friend from church that can help when you need help with dealing with these things. Find someone else who has walked through it and is now walking forgiven with the Lord.
thanks for replying..Ijust have this fear that im not forgiven.and if i fail the lord just one time its over.but i do feel conviction when i do fail.
Hi, my name is chance. I was in this state just a little while ago but I came to God in honest and begged for his forgiveness. I prayed constantly. I read the Bible. I looked up helpful Bible verses. Most importantly I PRAYED to God and seeked him. I feel I have been forgiven. I found God. Learned that demons are capable of coming in and making us feel like we are beyond hope when REALLY we still have God. It ma6 just be a tribulation. It may just be a difficult time. It may be the devil. Either way, GOD IS MERCIFUL and quick to forgive. Seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened. Seek ye first the kingdom. I’ve changed my life and I feel more of God’s love than ever. Just remember, “I will never leave you, nor forsake you”. God is merciful and longsuffering, he is slow to anger and quick to forgive. It may not be an easy journey, but there is forgiveness. Trust in God. May God richly bless you.
Test send
This will have to be in two parts,maybe 3 because of word limitation. So here's page 1
This is for everyone on here.What an unfortunate series of events that has lead you to the desperation that you feel.Please let me impart some comfort to all of you in severe distress.I'm almost sure a lot of you know some of the Word of God.But obviously only enough to scare you to death.Let me pose a suggestion to you.What is one main tool that you might think the Devil uses to discourage people? Believers and/or non believers? I'll tell you.It would be the very Word of God.Listen to me carefully.And re read this over and over.The Devil used God's own word against him when he tempted Jesus.Do you remember how he would quote a verse out of context?And Jesus would respond with the correct verse in the right context.Thats because Christ knew the word.I mean he was and is the Word.But the Bible says that "My people perish for lack of knowledge".Hosea 4:6.This is the problem you are facing.You are fighting a heavyweight boxer (The Devil) with amateur boxing skills.And you are obviously getting destroyed.
Page 2. Listen to these scriptures I'm going to post.And Meditate on them.Over and over.Because it's very easy to misunderstand scripture if you don't really study it.John 10:10,The thief comes to steal kill and destroy.I come that they might have life and have it in abundance.The most famous verse ever quoted,John 3:16,but don't forget what's right after it. The first part that says " for God so loved the world. That he gave his only son that who so ever believes in him will have everlasting life.But the next part says. For God sent his son into the world not to condemn it. But to save it. One not so well-known one but very powerful and true .1st Timothy chapter 1 verse 16. This verse pretty much disqualifies anyone from being beyond the reach of God's grace
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And that means whoever is reading this. The apostle Paul makes the statement and he says that what he was about to say is worthy of consideration .And absolutely true . And the verse states. That the apostle Paul was saved the worst of all sinners. So it could be made an example of Jesus Christ's Patience with the worst of sinners. If you look up that specific verse in Bible commentaries,It will explain that it can never be said,that any one persons situation,no matter how grim or desperate,was ever beyond the possibility of Gods redemption.These are not my ideas or opinions.This is straight up what God's Word says.I could write a book on here.But let me leave a few more verses.And they are not out of context!
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Some were made fools because of their sinful ways.They deliberately chose to go against God.And this is after they were told of his grace and forgiveness.They went their own way and it says they became fools.That their sin caught up with them.And Death was near.Yet! They cried to God,even in spite of their own selves getting them into the mess they were in.They called to God.And the verse says,God heard them.And he sent his Word and healed them.In spite of them pretty much spitting in his face.You know why? Cause Lamentations 3 says,God's compassion never fails.His mercies are new ever morning.As a matter of fact.Read all of Lamentations.I believe it was Jeremiah that wrote it.Just read how dark and depressed he was.I almost guarantee you will find similar feelings to yours in there.King David in Psalms,said God knows how futile the thoughts of mankind are.So he helps us by punishing us.This makes us follow his ways.Thats Psalm 94.Check 1st Corinthians 5:5,Do you remember when it says that a particular man was to be handed over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh? But it was only so his soul would be saved.In other words,God let this man go.But not for good.But as to let the effects of sin ravage him! Whatever they were.And afterwards after this man saw where that road lead.He was to be restored.That is in absolute agreement with the Psalm verse I gave earlier.If you don't know God's word you will be an easy meal for the Devil.The reason I know all this is because my sins have ravaged me.In my soul.I have felt as some of the darkest stories on here.But slowly but surely God's Word is bringing me out.And it will bring you out as well! Read and re read this! This is God's Word I have given you!Not my ideas! You who are reading this.God is waiting for you!He has already forgiven you!Isaiah 53,Each of us has gone astray.All have turned his own way.And God has laid upon Christ the iniquity of us all! ALL!!!
In page 4,at the start.The Bible verse is Psalm 107:20.Somehow I see I didn't post it with the verse.And be sure of this as well.You have to be very careful not to misread or take out of context scripture when you read it.The Reprobate mind you read of in Romans,you need to keep in mind that the Apostle Paul was writing that to a people who were so deep in sin,that he had to let them know the way out.The whole scope of Romans is to tell people that we are all on level ground when it comes to being guilty before God.We have all fallen so far and so badly.But that is the very reason Jesus had to die.Listen to this killer verse!Romans 5:20.The Law (meaning the 10 commandments)came in only to increase the trespass.But where sin abounded,grace super abounded.Do you not know that while you were in the middle of whatever sinful lifestyle you were in,and I mean while you were looking at porn,and pleasuring yourself.Or committing Adultery,Or doing some awful sin,even consistently,that Romans 5:8 says,"That God showed his Love for us in that while we were yet sinners,Christ died for us".That means you or whoever is reading this.Let these words I'm typing roll around in your mind.Just like you've let the guilt and darkness of condemnation and shame and terror of abandonment walk around freely in your mind.Kick those tenants out of the space in your mind and look over these verses in these last 5 pages.The above verse is saying that God himself knew of your path you would take.Your sins never surprised him.When he says all of your iniquity was paid for,that means ALL of it.Past,present and future.Romans 2:11,says God is no respecter of persons.When they brought the woman caught in adultery to Jesus as in John 8:10,what was it he said? Right after she was having sex with some guy?He said,where are your accusers?And she said nowhere.And he said,"neither do I condemn you."Now he did say go and sin no more".But it wasn't him that accused or condemned her.But you better believe she felt condemnation.He is no respecter of persons.Why would he treat you any different?Read over the previous verses.You will see that they stand true.Today is the day of Grace.
One more thing.You may say,I have tried to come back to God.Over and over.And it's just like a wall is there.There is no response! I recently heard a teaching series called Hardness of heart.A lot of what I am dealing with as well as others is a very hardened heart.I can almost be certain that those of you on here have been persisting for awhile I'm whatever sin you've been in.Cause the way you feel didn't happen overnight.Or in a week or month.Or even a year or two or three.Sin is sneaky and slow like a snake.The problem is sin will harden you to God.As I've heard it said by one of my favorite teachers.Sin will change your heart towards God.But it doesn't change God's heart toward you.There is a teaching series called "hardness of heart"by a teacher named Andrew Wommack.Whatever you may have heard about him,trust me an look up his website and look for this series of teaching.Its free.It will really open your eyes.You have spent much time hardening yourself to God.It will take time to soften your heart towards him again.And it won't be easy.But Christ died for the very darkness and depression you are in.Don't let the Devil lie to you and tell you your finished.
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Rybar,you need to read my posts at the bottom.
Jim,read my posts at the bottom.
Please guys text me!!
Ideas in this same state I felt like esua with no repentance!!
I cried with no feelings
I begged with no sincerity
Everytime something good happened
I told myself it was God hardening my heart
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Gave me hope
If you feel like God's threats are for you
Why not the promises to?
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My name is alex
Here's one
Watch "Discouragement Due to Lack of Assurance - Puritan William Bridge 1648" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/IqsRkjpygeE
Here's the second one
Watch "Predestination and Election ~Voddie Baucham~" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/DH31wuNoois
I still do struggle
I just realize that I'm a reprobate... God have Mercy on my soul, this is my fault. I did it to myself and I'm going to hell. I feel nothing, yup, sounds like a reprobate. I am an idiot. It guess God has done so much for me to get me out of a relationship but because of my disobedience, I messed up and still with her. I'm going through hell every single day...
What you are is exactly what I am going through.
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I hope you are doing better Alex. I also went through a period of time described exactly like you and the other fellow posters went through. But I am free now and I hope you are too. It was a scary scary time I really thought I was reprobate it to hell. I had to take time off of work it was very bad. People thought it was a mental state but it was definitely spiritual. I found that there was a block in my life I wasn't letting God have this particular thing that he ended up showing me. As soon as I gave that over to him I was able to repent and cry of my sins and I felt relief like I was finally forgiven. It was a hard Road. The black I had to release was something that was very hard for me to do but in doing so I ended up gaining so much love from God and I'm all the well better after releasing that block. I'm sorry if this sounds jumbled the way I wrote this but I really feel for people who are going through this and I hope you have felt hope.
How are you doing Jerry? I was also going through the same situation as you and the other posters are describing. I found this blog site and never responded or interacted with the bloggers but I exactly know how you and the others are feeling. It was a tiny little tiny bit of relief to know I wasn't alone but still felt like I was in a circular trap of no hope. It was May 31st of 2018 that I was released from this hold what it was is I had a black in my life that I wasn't Allowing God to have and once I released that I was able to experience so much relief and crying and repenting and I felt all the pain of my sin which is what I really wanted to do. For a long time I was walking around feeling like there was no repentance for me I would have dreams that told me I was not saved anymore I would feel the chains of all my sin just so many odd and weird things happening in my life that was pushing me in that direction like I was in a corner. But like I said it was a matter of letting God have his will in my life although I thought it was hard to give the block to God I was so relieved when I did and the block ended up being a blessing to me God turned it around and made it a big blessing in my life. I sure hope you are doing okay I really feel for you and the other people on this blog. Bless you Jerry I think God LED you to this blog for a reason and I trust that changes have been made in your life and you are noticing a difference.
Please know that I was using the microphone I want to edit that I had a 'block' in my life. Sorry it must have thought I said black. Sorry for the confusion there.
wow am I glad I found this website. Not to offer hope, but it helps somehow still to see others with similiar problems. even if they are un-fixable. I am a reprobate. Mostly My inner spirit and heart. I've been fighting to survive for 7 years. If I was healed I would not be afraid of anything anymore. Still after all this time I've been vasolating between letting the bottom truely drop out of my life (become homeless where at least I could sleep most of the day and my heart could come from a place of more brokeness) vs continue building a life that has no foundation. Fake it till you make it style.. kinda hoping that if I had kids God would have mercy on my inner-man enough to be almost ok. Almost Every day is worse than being in the front-line of war.Almost Every day their is a mountain so high the discouragement sets in. I feel like I've defeated cancer 1000 times, but it wants X+1 battles with me. The spirits torment my inner man all day sometimes. Of fear, anger, condemnation. I can't care for others or have relationships in the same way as one would want to (tears). Its really bothering me. It breaks me momentarily and then the evil comes back and hardens my heart and torements me till I'm going crazy. If you met me you would think I'm doing well and probably not be able to tell. But I've been shaddered to pieces... and that without remedy
Also everything I do turns to nothing.relationships,work, ect. My heart is so evil and I have no convinction. It's mostly like this when the devil comes in it and is tormenting me so bad I can't feel love or patience to others . I've tried a million times to come back to God. God has clearly showed me one thing during this (which I cannot deny, and I wish I could). I was praising with a strong christian and God put an image of me reaching out to others in my mind. It was undeniable, 3-4 years ago this happened. But I still don't know what to do with it. Reach out to whom? do I go down town and preach without the hs in me. My whole life is a vapor of infinite nothingness without the hs. I have no power. I have no self worth. I have no hope. I have no love. I have no peace. I have no patience. I am utterly worthless.Certain things break my heart but only momentarily. I've lost job after job and still get back up like someone in a war who's been shot up. I'm a very mentally tough person and always have been, but it's worth very little in this situation. Every day I am shattered to pieces with no reprieve. Christians tell me to serve God. But they don't understand how ridiculous that is in this situation.My heart if a cesspool of wicked now. I prayed that God would give me a life of physical pain so I could purify my heart. But that hasn't happened. I thought I could repent by cutting of my ba*** (so I would have no testosterone). I did part of the surgery and then decided to stop. God saved me from this on some other occasions as well. I'm a pretty good looking guy still (somehow my looks haven't utterly diminished from the stress, grace of God?) , and I have a crush on this beautiful girl. But really it all adds up to nothing because I no longer have anything to offer in this life. Her eyes are heavenly and her personality is amazing, but she doen't know I'm secretly a zombie. The hardest part is watch others live full lifes, to see what life was meant to be and used to be- and not be able to have it. Bring on the flames of hell, bring on the darkness, but the thought of knowing what could have been, and what was suppose to be is absolute despair. And I did all this to myself.. sometimes I get mad at myself for that. But other times the rage goes against God. How could this happen to a guy who still wants to do good in this life. I don't want to be evil, but here the spirits come again and destroy my inner personality. Somehow I taught myself programming, but the recent attack by the enemy has left me literally working 2hrs max a day. I have 500$ left before I don't know what to do. Ashamed to be seen in my city. Ashamed that I ever lived. But people think "things are getting better for me".Im dying over here guys
I build hope sometimes when I'm left alone. I picture this as relatively hopeful now. Let me paint a picture. I become homeless. Do manual labor for 30-40 bucks a week to pay gas and food. And sleep the rest of the time. My thoughts will accept the brokenness of the situation. I will lay in a van and fade away asking God to forgive me, and if he doesn't at least I wasn't sinning. Hungrey broken people probably don't sin as much. Plus I'll get to sleep all day to avoid the torment. I used to be quite the hero. smart, hardworking, personable. And I'm still all of these things, but the enemy overwhelms me terror distraction and all kinds of wicked things
I will also add that as far as I read Jerry's posts, I believe (theologically and literally as opposed to merely an attitude) that there is hope for him. I strongly believe the one's who truly blasphemes are the ones who don't come fully to Christ. I was sanctified, and being saved, heavily enlightened. Seen the powers of the age to come. The goodness of God was overflowing in me. And I was to stiff necked to confess him in front of multiple witnesses. I battled with being ashamed of the Gospel of God. I was embarrassed to be a Christian. If you were ever fully a Christian I can assure you there is hope. Unfortunately, if you were not born again all I can say is I'm sorry this had to happen to you. I know what its like. I was seconds from salvation on multiple occasions I believe... a word from salvation, but the snare of being ashamed of the Gospel grabbed me. The most I ever did was witness to a roommate, and not in front of others. I would always water down the truth God had shown me. I was not listening to the holy spirit telling me to share my faith. I was obstinate. Until the day I looked back to the world to find a relief (from God's light burden)-which I was failing to respond worthily to. On that day/night (despite warnings that I was sinning unto death) I looked back to find pleasure. I died. The enemy Entered. I went insane. I have no more hope. I can find hope in a moment, but the enemy steals it the next. I want to bury myself in a cave away from the sun and all of life so I don't have to be tormented how wrong life has went. So I don't have to be seen. As if to tell God without you I die in a ditch alone, but even the enemy will follow me to the cave. I feel as if I have been beaten without a break for years. I have been executed 1000 times over. I have climbed the tower of madness to find it never ends. I can't drop down. And Im too tired to continue.
A little more on the theology of this all. I believe that Chist is still wanting me to have a 'good life' and is 'rooting' for me. But this pales in comparison to the fact that the literal justice of God almighty has fallen on me. Christ always wants the best for a person in every situation, even when they can no longer be saved, and he can hardly help them. I am afraid for people like me the best is still not worth living through, and often definitely not. I have beautiful dreams ,when I drift to a world that doens't exist, where I dream that I was aborted as a child. This is my dream come true
Some more on the situation. My mind appears to also be reprobate in a sense. I believe whether one is a reprobate doen't mean they have a completely reprobate mind. Although if you allow yourself to give in to lies and notions because you can no longer handle the truth, then I believe your mind also becomes reprobate. Idk. I just know last night I felt that I gotta serve God and not go "out like this". I felt a little peace amidst the inner enemy. But today,this morning I woke up had a thought about this girl and started masturbating.. Then I realized... what am I doing. Though I had 0 conviction, Im going by my mind now and what I know. It seems I am really lost in terms of sexual sins... like completely gone. I believe that even if Im lost forever, I could at least resist that area to destroy that wicked principal within me. I want to "see" again. To get a perspective on who I really am. But if feels impossible now
during this whole time only a few hopefull things have been said to me by people of faith. One was a pastor who described a day when my outward life would still have struggles, but I would have an inner peace. But the rest of the time it feels God is so distant that it confirms I've gone to far forever and will never be reached by his spirit.My inner spirit needs cleansing because he won't enter an unclean temple, but it seems there is no way now
to think the God of eternity will never come back to your breast is so debilitating. Especially while dealing with the opposite force
Think if I ever somehow got married. Never having the love for your wife or relationship that was meant to be. And if I had kids , and they never get the love they need. The spirits are tormenting me again and I'm going crazy again. tears that endlessly lead to nothing. except a partial loosening of the torment. It has only been seven years. Cain told God his punishment is too much to bear. I say the same over and over . In every way its too extreme for me to handle. not making it through the day with anything to show. Not supposed to cry cause worldly sorrow causes death. This is the worst life ever imaginable.possible.conceivable . Can God listen to the prayers of someone else to make me feel good enough to love at least. I know I abused him before, but I want to change. Ill do anything, literally anything I can. The spirits of torment are shockingly unbearable. I feel like I could sleep for about the next decade. Everything dissipated that mattered at once. Nothing good is in my life anymore. Nothing worth living for. I hate myself, and I don't even get to be my real self anymore. I share my temple with utter torment and torture.Please have mercy on me God I beg you... I beg you God please have mercy on me. Clean me. please do something to save me from this. I can't live a real life, so why am I alive. Why do I continue like this. What is the point. Living but not fully human. Heart fully offered up to the dark side it seems. Help me please
One of the proofs that Jerry has hope is that he has described his torment as mental. Which means that his inner spirit was protected from the enemy. My mind is actually completely fine. I have some bad habits,but a strong mind. But my spirit is fully under attack. This shows that the space in side me doesn't seem like it was sealed by God. Which is why it could be taken by the enemy. It says there will be 7 terrible spirits that enter a temple that was cleaned, and the last condition is worse than the first. Meaning that the house was not full of God (presumably after many chances to be born again, although it was clean he mentions- God's sanctification). This is why the real reprobate may sometimes have no torment of mind and only a hardened dead tormented spirit. Because the enemy's got the only part that really really matters. The inner heart. From here there is no hope. I would like to know, but it appears that most Christians who go through this go through mental torment and a burden of heart, rather than a completely tormented hardened spirit. This is evidence (almost conclusive in my view) that there is hope for you. Me on the other hand, my inner man is utterly destroyed. If you can imagine 7 (the number of finality) spirits that were more evil than before you cleaned your temple entering you and tormenting you. There is really no hope at this point
Are there any words for not being able to give and recieve love. Woe
another day stole by the enemy. 7 oclock and I haven't been able to work because of the torment. Maybe I should go on medicine again. I would become a drunk but I decided not to. It would probably kill alot of pain though. I think a spirit can't last in this condition and extreme torment. Eventually everything will break down. mind body soul
Well of the two apparent paths available I find that it seems God is telling me to take the path that confirms I'm forever lost. Which is to just try to get a job and take care of myself. I was hoping he would tell me to seek him until I found him. But the word says "in that day they will seek me and never find me". So its like God knows the best I can experience now is the breeze through my hair, a little natural love when not closed off, and if I can make money and support myself. But I cannot receive this from God. I cannot accept it, so I keep seeking God anyway, and it ends in very bad torment. To the point I think it may affect my health if I continue.I don't know what to do. Its like I'm torturing myself by virtue of remembering God. Which is the opposite of what you would think. How can someone seek the God and receive only punishment. And for years on end. In the Bible of all the reprobates it seems to never really describe a person's efforts to return. Pharaoh dies, Judas dies, Cane seems to accept it and find worldly comfort only, Saul seems like the one that might have given a mighty effort that maybe wasn't documented. How else could he have prophesied for an entire night? I think he was really trying, but I don't know. In none of them is there are documented sustained effort to return to God. This is either because they made very little effort. Or maybe because their effort no longer mattered to God and therefore were not included, because their effort was now outside of the Grace of God... which is what the Bible is all about. If someone would pray for me, other Chirstian's have refrained from praying for me in certain conditions and I think its because I'm so beyond praying for. One very strong Christian refrained praying for my heart and only would pray for my mind ( which is not the problem at all). Another old lady prayed for me and said , "oh! somethings blocking your heart" (which I knew).. And then she said you're gonna have to get your butt kicked (whatever that meant). Another time (when this first happened) a lady literally quit praying for me mid-prayer and prayed for everyone in general. And my parents (born-again Christians) have not put me on their list in any specific way. Other that a general mention with the other children. It seems everything confirms that it's too late for me. Anyway. right now the torment isn't that bad after swimming, so maybe I can get a full day of work in. Can you guys at least pray that I desire righteousness again, and that I stay sane and don't curse God when going insane next time. And that I can still serve God one day, and take part in the human race again as someone who can care deeply for others? please please do this for me . The prayers of the righteous avail much! it says
I read Beth's comment and I also realize I have this block in my spirit. I don't know exactly how to rid myself of it. I know part of it has to be sensuality or lust. Pray that I can still hate that sentiment inside my spirit. The "block" is literally blocking the place where I feel love. I feel as if a surgeon could open me up and actually remove it and scrape all the deadness around it out and I would be whole again. Today I got up early and praised God as much as I could. God is good. I have to come to terms with a disposition on God and picture of who he is, or find a way to have the peace to serve him. The problem is that when the root is bad, the whole tree is bad. Im praying that the root be smashed . My friend prayed for me and saw an image of a giant hammer smashing my heart. Which is what I feel like needs to happen as well. Once again, the enemy blocking the love in our hearts is not acceptable. We pray to God to give us faith to ignore that and try to love until we find him on the other side? God forgive me for being reckless with my heart. Don't abandon your creation. You are the God of the creation. The God of eternity. I am like an ant who needs you. Please grant me perspective. Please help me see what I am doing wrong. Please help me hate the sin that caused death. Please give me a strong desire to serve you. Help me learn when to be bored and to know when a something is a merely soulish distraction. Let me favor healing for my spirit over other distraction. Let me have enough peace to do the right thing. I want to "go out" serving the Lord at least. I pray for a strong desire to work for the kingdom of God for everyone on this blog. It even says there are few laborers, and God has used a donkey in the past. So he can still use us. As he does I pray the faith will build a little in our hearts and something will be placed that the enemy can't remove. Amen
We clearly need a Nebuchadnezzar moment of seeing how wrong we are. To be shocked back to life for what we have done and what we are harboring in our hearts and minds. Forgive me God. I will serve you forever. please forgive me. I will clean the shoes of the guy who cleans everyone shoes. Please I have no life without Christ. I have nothing without him. I am drifting in ever changing tides without control of where I go. No direction, no purpose, no vision. Give me a vision. Without vision we will perish it says.
Hey John I’m going through the same thing. Do you have an email ? Would be good to talk to someone about this
johnb@forestcitytennis.com
i am scared i might be a reprobate i no loger feel convicted when watch porn just nomenuess
What was that block that you had to release what was so hard for you to you to give to God ?
i was not i did not knew how to repent from sin so i did not know how to get out of sin
I feel I have a reprobate mind because I have slowly turned my back on God. I was saved and baptised at 9 years old. I backslid but when I turned 26 I came back to him. In 2008 I went through a long period of grief over divorce and sexual sin. I could not sleep at night for 8 months and was tormented. I got on medication and God saved me at church one night. My parents and I were going to church sometimes. He gave me a miracle and I took it for granted. He was with me healing me but somehow my sin caught up with me again and I started disobeying again. I am back again in the same place of torment but now it is worse. My mind is filled with evil, my heart is hard. I do not sleep. It is as history repeated itself because I choose not to believe.
I wish that I had only continued to obey the voice of God because I can no longer hear it.
i am a reprobate but i did not mean to become one i was stuck in willful sin because i had no idea how a person repents i did not find out about the sinners prayer until it was done
I know I am a reprobate. In May of 2017, I said "MAY GOD STRIKE ME DEAD IF I AM LYING" and I was lying and I felt God strike me dead spiritually. I do not experience time. There is no end or beginning of days, weeks, months, years. 24 hours feels like 1,000 years. I began searching for information on what happened and read Romans 9 in the bible that says God hated Esau and makes some people vessels of wrath and others He forgives and makes vessels of mercy. I am tormented with vile, wicked blasphemous, mocking thoughts 24 hours a day and I can't sleep. I have slept maybe 5 minutes every 24 hours. I have thoughts of suicide but know I will end up in the lake of fire sooner. My whole family is christian and I was raised a christian and never thought something like this could happen. Has anyone else experienced this?
To the Anonymous person who posted November 27th. I don't claim to be an expert on theology, but I will say that too often the modern church waters down the full message of the gospel. Often people are told to say the sinner's prayer and that's it! They receive a message that skips over repentance (we are to confess our sins to God and have a repentant heart), baptism of the Holy Spirit (where we receive POWER to live the Christian life, and the ability to speak in tongues) and deliverance (freedom from sin, Jesus breaks the chains of bondage to sin). Christians in the Bible were healing people and casting out demons right and left. How often do you see that in today's church? (another pet peeve -- a wrong religious teaching is that we suffer sickness for God's glory. That's a lie! Jesus healed EVERYONE who came to him and was tormented by the devil!) Jesus came to save us out of our sins -- not in our sins. Anyways, the end result is that Christians in church often end up struggling, instead of being victorious in Christ. We're supposed to be new creatures in Christ! Here's a ministry I would encourage you to hook up with someone. It seems you need deliverance and a clear understanding of the gospel. Here's a video you may like that explains a bit better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ErqyAjqtqA&feature=youtu.be&mc_cid=ad050bfc43&mc_eid=a222910cf7
Have I struggled as a Christian due to missing the FULL message of the gospel? Yep. But God is gracious and has worked with me, even when I started out as a basket case. As long as you live, there is still hope for you!
I wonder how everyone else is doing.
https://youtu.be/kDf5zV9MJzs
https://youtu.be/kDf5zV9MJzs
Thank you everyone. I also feel lost to sin and depravity. I was in a long term relationship outside of marriage and it ended terribly. I tried to move on but it was no use and my conscience caught up to me and I feel as if I've lost my inner being. After reading what others have gone through I believe there may still be hope. The thing I struggle with and I don't know exactly where it is in the gospels but I know it is new testament "be careful when you have swept your house (which I take as Soul) clean lest the demons come back seven times stronger". I had always felt somewhat close to God and that I had his protection. Now I live in fear and self loathing. Time is losing meaning and I have terrible thoughts about how I've lived my life. All we can do is pray and tell/confess and know we are not alone.
Thanks for this website. I like reading about similar experiences that I'm going through and is helpful. Hebrew 6:4:6 is really scary for me.
My heart feels that I am a reprobate, but I cannot accept this ultimate status because being unsaved forever is too much for me to handle.
I never wanted this ultimate status in my heart.
All I want is to find Jesus as Savior and have a relationship with Him forever. I want to be a born again Christian. The bible says God hates reprobates and will never be forgiven. God's word applies to all people, not just born again Christians.
I didn't know the sinner's prayer until it was too late. My heart is scary too.
The first time I prayed the sinner's prayer I had an underlying feeling from my heart that I will never find Christ as Savior again because He will never forgive me. I prayed the sinner's prayer a couple of years ago, and my heart is still right about never finding Christ as Savior after sustained effort to try to be a born again Christian.
I spent thousands dollars $$$ on Christian counseling, Christian life coaches,
Christian mentors at my church, mature born again Christian friends, and pastors to find
Christ as savior and have a new life with Him forever but nothing worked over the years.
I was saved and baptized in the holy spirit 12 years ago. I went back into the world back to making music because i was scared to preach and noone in churches seemed to know what i was going through. Im not 32 years old and trying my hardest to get things back right with Jesus. I can say that I do feel the anointing still at times and i have been set free from alot lately nicotine included. I do struggle with the fears i see here. The enemy torments the mind amd its really only when i feel like the holy spirit tells me to do something and i hesitate or disobey that i really get into trouble and have to repent and get back up. ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY, I SEE SO MUCH HOPELESSNESS HERE 😔. I cant speak on everyones individual situation, but one thing I can say, DONT COUNT GOD OUT. THE BIBLE STATES ALL SIN CAN BE FORGIVEN EXCEPT BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT (the devil always tries to trick me into believing i have with terrible thoughts etc.) But i truly believe the Bible when it says God is married to the backslider and speaks of healing the backslider. I believe the fact that we are breathing means we have a chance. We just have to buckle down amd truly repent and show God we love him by our actions. We rely on how we feel so much tthat we forget what we need to do. Ive heard it said that living by feeling is very dangerous. The inner man still wars against us and sometimes we might not feel very loving but we would give the shirt off our back to anyone. Lets not confuse love with feelings. The devil is world champ at making a christian feel unloved and beyond help. I am in this war too but i refuse to give in. See the devil wants you to give up. The devil wants you to throw in the towel. But we forget, God chastens those he loves. God is a person as well as God he has feelings, desires etc. And he desires that none perish. Brothers sisters all i can say is do not give up on the one who shed his blood for you. Do not give up do not hurt yourself and do not stop crying out to God even if its 1 tear.
If you are still willing to repent (turn from your sin) DO NOT GIVE UP. The prodigal son stands out to me through my own failure. See, the son knew the father and had it made but he still blew it, blew his whole inheritance. But what did the father do? He Had open arms, Jesus Loves You so dont give up repent fully and strive your best to live for him we are living in wicked times where faith has to be firmly stood upon and repentance has to show in our life because satan is pulling out all the stops to ddestroy the little faith some are fighting to hold on to. Love you friend dont give up IN JESUS CHRIST NAME
In order to choose Jesus as savior, you must have the proper knowledge to be saved. If you don't have the proper
knowledge to be saved, than it is impossible to be saved. You must know the sinner's prayer to be saved.
You also need to know the seriousness of your sin too.
I first sincerely prayed the sinner's prayer a couple of years ago. I also prayed and read the bible everyday, and go to church every week
like any good born again Christian would do. After a couple of years later, I still can't find Jesus as a Savior and only had a one-way relationship (like
talking to a wall) because Jesus never responded to me. In other words, I have been spiritually dead despite all the right sincere efforts that any good born again Christian would do. I will never give up finding Jesus as a savior because He means everything to me.
I feel very sad because I made 0 progress in the last couple of years and is tearing me apart.
God looks at us at individuals! Every individuals situations is different. If you are truly a reprobate, then God doesn't love you anymore- God hates reprobates. God will never
forgive reprobates.
If you are truly not a reprobate, then God loves you. God can still forgive you.
I know at least some of us here are true reprobates. Every individuals should know their
ultimate status with God. DO NOT GIVE UP on finding Jesus as savior. Everybody must
know the sinner's prayer to be saved. It is impossible to be saved without knowing the sinner's prayer.
I read some of the posts here like 'Jesus is quick to forgive' and
'Jesus has open arms with the prodigal son.' 'Jesus loves you.'
I never found forgiveness and Jesus' love after saying the sinner's prayer over 10 times, praying and reading the bible everyday, going to church every week, and truly turning away from your sin for the past couple of years. I also made a 200 gratitude list suggested by my pastor. I have made a sincere effort to find true repentance and will never give up finding Jesus as Savior.
I can sadly say that Jesus didn't have open arms for me and Jesus isn't quick to forgive me. The prodigal Son doesn't apply with the Hebrew 6:4:6 verse.
The Hebrew 6:4:6 verse is the precise outline what individuals do to be a REPROBATE.
The Hebrew 6:4:6 verse is the unforgivable sin of BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!
In the bible, God hates reprobates and will never be forgiven.
Stuck in habitual sin for many years. wanted to overcome my habitual sin but
didn't know HOW. know a lot of people who got out of habitual sin without Jesus, so I thought I was fine, but really wasn't. tried everything to get out of my habitual sin.
I am in the same boat as many of you. Saved for 10 years, backslide for 4 years then had a reprobate mind. 4 weeks ago God revealed the terrors of hell to me and all my willful sin, horrible bodily afflictions and soul terrors. I am still holding out hope daily but it is a sliver. God says in the old Testament to return to him and he will heal our backsliding. He is always abounding is mercy. The Bible says "he hates putting away" and that he is "married to us". We are also sealed with the Holy Spirit and that he who started a good work in you will complete it in the day of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Look up Gabe the Stree Preacher on youtube. I went on his website and read a post from him about losing salvation. Here is his testimony.
It truly is an eye opening/soul opening experience when one has lived in willful sin and then they come to a “visitation from God.” The Day of his Visitation is quite an alarm. We are stopped dead in our tracks of willful sin only to be faced with the offenses we have committed to God. My alarm came when God revealed to me Hebrews 10:26 which states: “For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries”
I instantaneously saw 13 yrs of willful sin shoved in my face in a trance/vision. The vision lasted less than 10 seconds but it was EXTREMELY vivid. I knew I was guilty and hell bound. The John 3:16 verse that I had believed in and “hung my hat on” as a willful sinner, went out the door. I had no excuse for my sin. God visited me in my sin. Hence, the Day of Visitation.
Long story short, as I will spare you with one and a half years of heavily supernatural torments and hell on earth I had to experience. Taking my life was a daily temptation and I was oh so close many a times, even to the point of planning it all out in ways. But for many a month I was planted with my face literally to the ground in my backyard. I lay prostate face down eating dust. Tears were like rivers coming down from my face and the wrath of God was in force. It is a chastisement unknown to the common man. But OH… HOW DO THE SCRIPTURES COME ALIVE! The Word of God was slaying me daily. I was the enemy of God. The more I read the scriptures to find solace, the more the Word would slay me. I couldn’t read the bible to find comfort.
Long story short, again, My God had mercy upon me, I endured his Scourging. He beat the HELL out of me. Literally.
I thank him for it!
Is there any hope for us. I am desperate to feel the Holy Spirit and to feel love in my heart. Please advise.
What is your story?
What is your story
In May of 2017, I said "MAY GOD STRIKE ME DEAD IF I AM LYING" and I was lying and I felt God strike me dead spiritually. I do not experience time. There is no end or beginning of days, weeks, months, years. 24 hours feels like 1,000 years. I began searching for information on what happened and read Romans 9 in the bible that says God hated Esau before he was born. I have thought God hated me for I have done everything the Lord hates but He did not kill me physically so I am continuing to seek repentance and forgiveness for I have committed grievous sins and deserve God's wrath and the lake of fire. I choose the plead with Him every moment for His mercy and grace.
Esau couldnt find repentance because his father already gave the blessing to his brother Jacob. He couldnt inherit the blessing even with tears because it went to his brother. It was a blessing he wanted. And after, Esau tried to kill Jacob, not real repentance at all.
If you were born again then there is always hope. God in the Old Testament said, return to me and I will heal your backsliding. He says he hates putting away and that he is married to us. Let me ask you this, you are the son of your parents right? If you are disobedient to them you still remain a son, always a son. They might not be proud of you but you cant be unborn once your are born of God.
You need to stop thinking and focusing on hell. The Devil wants you to so that and destroy you and is winning.
God says without faith it is impossible to please him. We must turn our minds from death to life. From faithless to faithful. Renewing our mind starts with constant prayer. Get a few scriptures and pray over them daily and start believing. God says he is close to the broken and contrite spirit, that is what you have. Psalm 39.10 Remove thy stroke away from me:I am consumed by the blow of thine hand. Job 33.27 He looketh upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not; He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light. Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man, To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.
Beyond all things keep your faith in Gods mercy, faith is the substance of things hoped for, the belief of things unseen. Trust in his mercy, print out this scripture and meditate on it all day. The Lord taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy.
Psalms 147:11 KJV
God is love, look at Christ, that us seeing God, if you saw Christ from the bible right now and asked him face to face if he will forgive you, what do you think his response would be? He would never cast off a repentant person never, the Devil wants you to fear. God has not given us a spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind.
Joe, thank you for your response. I thought I was born again but looking back I don't think I was saved. I know I am terrified of God's wrath and think about burning in the lake of fire every moment. I know God is mad at the wicked every day. His wrath burns every day. The Bible states that God's mercy is new every morning and I am pleading with God to have mercy on me and forgive me for my grievous sins. God had mercy by not striking me physically dead when I spoke those words but I felt Him strike me spiritually dead and I can see myself for the wretched person I was. I still have no feelings and do not feel a heart. My physical body is in constant agony and I plead for mercy.
Reprobates have no hope to be truly saved from Jesus as Savior.
If you are truly a reprobate and sincerely prayed the sinner's prayer to be saved,
Jesus will still never forgive you. Jesus will never accept the sinner's prayer from
true reprobates!
Why? God is angry at your habitual sin. You have been struggling with your
habitual sin for too long. See Hebrew 6:4:6. Your habitual sin for too long has
lead to a PERNAMENT separation apart from God. In other words, you have been
spiritually dead PERNAMENTLY! You will NEVER be spiritually ALIVE from Jesus again
on this earth in your life time and after you die in Hell. There's nothing you can do
and can only accept this fact of truth. You will suffer that you will never find Jesus as savior for the rest of your life. For the rest of your life, you will find God
too distant, too cold, and absent in your life even if you sincerely prayed the sinner's prayer, read the bible, pray every day, and go to church for many years.
True born again believers are the opposite of reprobates. True born again believers
know God as always all loving and intimate, and reprobates will find God as always absent, distant and not involved in their lives.
God hates reprobates and punishes them because God is angry at their habitual sin for too long. God doesn't love reprobates, and He will not
discipline (correct their sinful behavior) them.
God only disciplines those who love and is not angry at them.
The bible states that Jesus has withdrawn His face from reprobates, and He will not
answer! Do not expect Jesus will answer! Your heart knows the truth that Jesus will not answer.
God always starts with the heart!
My advice is to keep pressing for Jesus as Savior, sincerely praying the sinner's prayer,
read the bible and pray everyday, and go to church consistently like once a week.
You must embrace the true believers Christian lifestyle.
Being consistent over time is key! You will find out if you are a true reprobate
or truly saved over time. Only God knows your situation and looks at us as individuals.
God is the only one who determines if you are truly reprobate and is the judge for everyone on this planet.
If you are truly saved, you can never be a reprobate. You can never lose salvation.
A reprobate was NEVER saved in the first place. (Hebrew 6:4:6)
A reprobate will never be truly saved, even if the reprobate truly wants to be truly saved.
The bible states that Jesus will come to Earth for the 2nd time.
This could happen in our lifetimes. At least some of us might talk with Jesus face to face
on Earth! Too bad we don't know when He will come back to Earth again.
Face to face with Jesus can shed invaluable insight.
Hi this is addressed to the person talking about their struggles with reprobate thoughts. Your name is Jerry right? I’d like to first say, God loves you and He gave His sin for us all because of that love. If the conclusion you’ve reached is that you weren’t saved in the first place, then what you need to do is to trust in God, rest in His promise. When Jesus says believe in me, you need to fully trust that God has set you free from your sins because He has by substituting Jesus on the cross for you. A man cannot rely on his own strength to repent and thy us you need to trust that God will give it to you, faith is also not merely a feeling. Trusting that you feel saved does not save anyone at all, it is the full assurance of Christ crucified on the cross for your sake, your sins are paid for now believe in it and ask for God’s help to walk away from your sins. Maybe God didn’t strike you dead spiritually, maybe He simply just made you aware of your true spiritual condition, the Bible says all men start out dead to God, spiritually dead in trespass and sins, it just that most men are blinded to that spiritual condition and desperation. If this is the case then, God has given you a gift many will not receive, a true good look at yourself and your iniquity and this gives birth to a helpless reliance and plea to God for help. I'm going to notify you about myself, I am not a mature Christian, but I can tell you is information I've received from men who do know Him. I'd like you to continue to be encouraged to continue seeking Him and hoping, faith does not rely on feelings it just simply places its trust in the promises of God. Simply believe and rest in the promises of God and He will answer you. perhaps it may take a period of persistent seeking, but faith is simply resting in God and trusting in His promises. The works of obedience are done because of their trust in God, that when they step out in faith God will come and deliver them likewise salvation is trusting in the finished work of the cross. Heb 11:1 says that faith is assurance in things that you don't see, the flesh will never receive the things of God but the spirit can receive them and in the promises you can trust and rest in peace. These videos may help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn5jy2igb7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AspwAG3mwg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1eWUpT9aE - this message is tough, but you may find it helpful.
That last video link I sent, I'm not trying to scare you into thinking that you're reprobate, if you do feel fear then please calm down. If you still hate your sin and desire freedom, then as the man in the video says it's a very good sign. You may not be reprobate as you may think you are, God has probably given you a perspective on hell and a motivation to leave. still, don't give up and keep fighting the good fight.
I am the one who believes God struck me dead spiritually. My name is not Jerry. I am a female and your message is one of hope for me. Truly God has given me a great gift to see myself as I really was. I know had He struck me physically dead that I would be burning right now and I never would have sought His forgiveness and mercy. I know how long eternity is and the time does not move. 24 hours now feels like one thousand years and to think that you will be burning in a lake of fire for even one second is unbearable to imagine. Being alone like I have been for three years, is unbearable. The isolation and the condemnation, guilt, remorse, shame and doom are all too much to bear. I pray that God will use me and my life as an example of what not to do and that He will show me mercy and kindness and forgive my sins and cleanse me from all my unrighteousness. I pray that He will turn His justifiable wrath away from me and will not destroy me along with my sins.
Guys, has anyone experienced deliverance from this?
I wanted to know the same thing
Everyone, the key to get out of this state is faith! You must not look at your circumstances or even your own feelings. The evil one can manipulate those.
The worst thing you can believe is that the blood of Jesus can no longer and is not good enough to cleanse you of all sin.
Yes, there are parts of the Word that say we cant be forgiven BUT much more saying we CAN. And its all based on our faith.
Hebrews say beware that we part from God by an evil heart of unbelief. We get this heart from sin. When we sin so much we think God cant forgive us and we depart. God says that he will NEVER leave us nor forsake us! Yet the Old Testament says that "I have not forsaken you but you have forsaken me". God never leaves, and like the Prodigal son we can always come back. The difference between you and the Prodigal, he has faith to come back to God, he knew God would take him.
Its all our faith, and God tests it by sometimes leaving us in darkness for a long period of time to exercise our faith.
Do you believe that Christs blood cleanses you from ALL sin? Do you believe that what he started in you he will finish? Do you believe where sin abounded grace did much more? Do you believe you are sealed until the day of redemption? That God is not imputing sin in this age? That God is longsuffering, tender hearted and exudes multitudes of tender mercies?
King David believed, he believed in Gods mercy and we must also plead that along with Gods other great promises.
God acts on faith, all I read here is unbelief saying how can I be forgiven, or I want to be forgiven. Well you ARE forgiven, the Blood covers all sin. Hes forgiven you all trespasses. We just have to believe despite our unbelief.
God honors faith despite circumstances. You want him to move for you, you do it by believing hos written word over everything.
No verse in the bible says you cant repent. Matter of fact it says that the gifts and Calling of God (God called you) are irrevocable. He doesnt take it back for any sin or backsliding, only we depart by unbelief. But by faith can come back again. Each sin the evil one brings up, praise God for his amazing grace.
The Bible says "return to me and I will heal your backsliding". That is a promise from the most high God. Believe it with all you heart, even if it takes years, just think God is testing you faith if it doesnt happen right away. But it will soon! Bible says by faith and PATIENCE do we inherit the promises.
Repent, and go and sin no more.
I messed up. I was so close to the Lord at one time and I got told to just believe while seeking the holy ghost and I fell down and down to where I see no return and at church (we are Pentecostal holiness not snake handlers either) but this got read to the church and I know it was for me. Jeremiah 13:12-27. It was about me. I dont know what to do. I'm scared to seek God because he could kill me and send me to hell and I cant seek him because my mind and heart and thoughts are almost all blasphemous and perverted and I can not stop them no matter what. I'm a retrobate. ;(
The evil one brings fear and trys to seperate us from God. You need to take the shield of faith and the sword of the spirit, which is the Word or God and fight, fight, fight back those thoughts and come back to Christ.
"All who come to him he will no wise cast out."
Are you coming to him? Good, he wont cast you out! Thats a promise. You say you cant come to him? Why because of being afraid of not being taken back, because of a bad thought life? Be gone with that lie! He says he will no wise cast you out! Thats a promise or do you not believe him? Come back and you wont be cast out. believe it with your soul.
Hi I'm the one who replied that God may not have struck you dead, but simply opened your eyes. I know you’re scared after reading those verses from Jeremiah, but I’d like you to consider the context of those verses and who those messages were for. This is a people whose backslidings are great and had no place for repentance. Again and again they are warned not to worship idols and yet they still go back to worshipping them and for this particular reason God tells Jeremiah to stop praying for them, because they found no place for repentance. From what I gather about you, you want to return to God, you desire to repent and truly stand in His presence again and I’m sure that you truly don’t want to sin anymore, but to live wholeheartedly for His sake. These people God spoke to over and over again, but they still chose to disobey Him. Read chapters 42-44 in Jeremiah and many others. These people kept disobeying God and would not listen to Him no matter how many times He sent prophet after prophet to warn them and finally He said in Jer 44:25 “Go ahead and keep your promises, worship your idols.” This is the heart of those who God gives totally over to their sins, He just tells them to go ahead and keep doing evil and lets them commit all the sins that they want, thus giving them over to depraved minds to do what ought not to be done in Rom 1:28. 2 Tim 3:8 further clarifies the condition of the reprobate mind, the example being Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses. These men oppose the gospel, 2 Tim 3:1-7 talks about what these people of depraved minds do. I don’t think you want to do this at all. Also, what about king David who had the Holy Spirit, but sinned against God by committing adultery and then murder. Didn’t god have mercy on him? Yes God severely chastened him, but still had mercy on him and restored him. Also Lam 3:10-33.
What about the comments from that man John B who replied earlier. He testified that he felt God wanted him to know that he cannot be saved and should thus live and enjoy the life he has now because he's gonna burn in hell anyway; he also testified that a mature Christian stopped mid-prayer and prayed for everyone in general and thus he believed that his fate was sealed. John testified that he has been baptized in the Holy Spirit and seen marvelous things If you read his later comment on May 9, 2019 at 9:04 am, he says that his friend prayed for him and saw a vision of his heart getting smashed by a hammer so God did not abandon this backslider.
If you also read Andy Pierson’s article, he says that he believes that unless God has mercy on a reprobate and intervenes, that reprobate will continue to downward spiral towards hell. As far as I know, I believe God has interfered in your life (if you truly were on that path to reprobation). If God does not want you saved, He will not interfere, but in your case He has brought a godly fear into your heart. I think that if God didn’t want to forgive you and just still wanted you to go to hell, He wouldn’t have even brought an awareness of sin to you and would just simply left you to blindly go to hell. Jn 12: 35 says that “He who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going,” and a reprobate person who has a mind that is so darkened and given over to corruption would not even be aware that he’s going down to hell, thus giving them absolutely no hope of heaven. After all, he who cannot see the light cannot walk in the safety of it.
I'm not too sure what else I can say to you right now except the fact that your sins are forgiven in His Name. Christ's blood cleanses all. I pray that God will help you not to lose hope when seeking Him and that this great cloud of darkness shall pass from your life and that you will be able to stand in his presence once more. I'm not sure what I can say, but when I pray for you, I feel a heavy cloud of darkness pushing back against me. I asked God if there truly was no hope for you and I don't believe He's led me to the conclusion that you can't be saved. I can still say however, that some sort of heavy dark presence is there when I pray for you so take that into thought. As Charles Spurgeon’s book “The Wicket Gate” says, all a man needs to do to be saved is to trust in Jesus. He has already paid for all the sins of the world and now is just a matter of letting yourself rest in His finished work, gazing at that bronze serpent that cures the poison (Jn 3:14-15; Num 21:6-9). John Wesley also once preached to a criminal condemned to die, who kept saying that God couldn’t forgive him, but when Wesley preached on faith, the man’s eyes lifted to heaven and he said “Lord, remember me,” like the thief on the cross. He was forgiven of his crimes and born again. Also, I heard a story of a girl who reached out to a minister because of blasphemous thoughts of Christ, this minister told her that those blasphemous thoughts aren’t from her, but are the devil’s fiery arrows. Afterall, the devil goes around like a roaring lion seeking those whom he may devour 1 Pet 5:8. Finally the Lord Jesus says to the church of Sardis, a church once with a reputation of being alive but is now dead; He does not leave that church without any hope, but rather says “Be watchful and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die.” “Remember what you have received and heard, hold fast to it and repent.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrp7cMDCZgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I5gaMSichY
These videos are on the unpardonable sin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRVAsBmzlE8&t= <-- this video particularly talks about holding onto the promises when you believe that you've committed the unpardonable sin.
Shi Yi,
Thank you for an wonderful message of hope. I have wrongly accused the Father of not wanting me and not choosing me when I was the one who forsook Him. I left Him and used every excuse as to why I was going to Hell and all of them blamed God. When I said "May God strike me dead if I am lying" the Lord could have struck me physically dead but He did not. It is true I do not experience time and I feel spiritually dead but I have been able to see myself as a filthy, worthless piece of garbage who rejected God. My heart was hardened and I was a useless pot in the potters house. I accused God of handing me over to Satan but realize I opened all the doors and handed my temple to him. I have been filled with darkness and oppression. Please pray for God to create in me a new heart and renew a right spirit within me and to heal my mind, body and soul as only He can do.
Silver the hedgehog makes reprobates to eat - goku
I believe I was lead here from God Jesus and the Holy Spirit to not only pray for you. My husband and I have already said many prayers and asked for intercession on your behalf and all of you are of this mind. I was to lead you through God unique signature knocking at .y hearts door. My husband and I obeyed what God put on our heart to do for all you. Jesus precious is the only way truth and life. Start by calling out to him. Speak out loud the name of your savior Jesus. But Know this from him. And seek him. In all things starting now. He says that he will never leave or forsake you. If you are forsaken, I came across a definition of prayers for those in perdition. Found it about a year ago in a dictionary. I was lead there after asking God for his Words. On a crossward game on my tablet words that pertained to my husband's critical situation. I also noticed words that related to the world's state. Finally reprobate mind came up somehow. As a Christian woman that seeks him like a stalker I with conviction believe like the Hebrew dictionary omitted the word coincidence was because there are none. Nothing is happenstance. This was his our Lord Jesus his Father God ( and ours) and the Holy Spirit that put this time and call from you and all others was appointed now for a divine intervention. I am not nor will my husband give up on praying for his unmerited favor ( grace) . If you can't do anything but a baby step. look up and ask for him now. Just try it. Humble and meek is your King and Lord. What do you have to lose right now? Just look up and speak his name aloud. Will be praying and know I was sent here from above
My husband and I left you and all those of this mind a message concerning urgency. The message is proof if you will look up to date July 16 2016. This is from a brother and sister to you in Jesus. Just look up
Just scroll up. Just want you to look up in this blog to your entry on July 16 2016.
I read some threads and I believe you guys haven't been reprobated.
Blasphemous thoughts are a sign that the devil is working hard to get you to fall.
Reprobates don't have that kind of attack anymore. I know because I am one.
How do I know this?
After being attacked by blasphemous thoughts, not having the Holy Spirit working inside of me, but outside of me, God had to use people around me to get me to come back to Him.
Unfortunately, the thoughts took a toll on me and I said out loud in bitter rage and anger something terrible to the person God was using to minister to me, not knowing that it was God's work in my life and I just blasphemed it.
I immediately felt dead inside and felt that love leave. I felt the rage and torment which led me to speak harshly leave. I was in shock.
Blasphemous thoughts = Satan's attack. But it doesn't mean ultimate reprobation. Just an open window to torment.
There is still hope for those who have that. Just know that Jesus is still there.
I don't get those as much anymore. But like a reprobate heart, my heart is hardened, angry, filled with grief and sorrow. Wanting to get what was once mine.
I don't feel "torment" anymore.
I feel tormented when I try to come to Jesus. I feel like there is a brick wall, and pushing my way through that feels hopeless.
I have also been condemned by other Christians already. Under Jesus' approval and rightfully so.
I also pushed Him away... I don't feel that torment 24/7 anymore.
But I can say for sure that I should have been dead at this point, but something is preventing that. Jesus really wants me gone. True Christians I know have confirmed it... and it hurts me everytime. My heart is just filled with pain.
There is fear of going to hell and it just paralyzes me... waves of fear come to me. I can only pretend to be a decent human being but my core, I can tell, is hard and filled with sorrow and grief. Not just because of losing Jesus, but also for the crimes I have committed against Him and humanity.
Just remind yourself.
I got attacked by the spirit of the AntiChrist. In my head I thought that it was over for me but it's not. I even thought of doing Baal worship because I was fooled into thinking that that was my ultimate end.
But what did Jesus do? He chastised me. I thought it was judgement on His part but no, it was chastisement. He was angry and grieved... but Jesus was still fighting and holding on. I think it's safe to say that this sin is worse than what others have committed here... but there was still grace.
Not until I blasphemed.
Every sin will be forgiven except the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
I blasphemed against the Holy Ghost, I hurt Him terribly that He had to leave...
I surely wish I was still under that umbrella of protection.
My situation now is, I live in fear everyday not sure for my life.
I get trauma thinking about my ultimate end, after all the spiritual experiences I encountered and the evidence I received, I still get terror, not just for me, but for everyone around. I had a role to play and I know Jesus has replaced me to fill that role. But I was disobedient and even if I wanted to follow His command, I did not endure.
It's not just me... but I dragged others around this too. I have blood on my hands in an unimaginable way, and so, truly, I believe that I am a reprobate.
Guys, my sin is so great, you have no idea. Under the law the least and most decent punishment for me is capital punishment.
All I can say that people under this thread still have hope. Please, have hope. You still have a chance, Jesus will always, always, always fight for you.
I have felt the hardness of heart, the torment, the fear, the dread, the hopelessness. You're not a reprobate. Hope this brings comfort in some way...
There is not ONE person from this blog that is truly a reprobate. The fact that you are worried shows that your heart is alive! Trust me, the Lord has not condemned any of you! Especially to the person above who thinks they blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Just repent! God loves you and you will be forgiven. Nobody has been judged YET. Judgement comes when the Lord returns. Repent, be baptized, and develop an intimate relationship with the Lord and you will be saved! Everyone is invited! Stop listening to the enemy! He is a liar! Every time he starts telling you lies, lift up your hands and start loudly praising the Lord. That cut off withering branch will flee! I promise! Here’s another tip-if what you are hearing is not life giving, then it is NOT the Lord speaking to you. The Lord will encourage you and lead you to truth. Please listen to Pastor Dan Mohler on YouTube. He preaches a clear gospel that will help you immensely. Right now, believe who Jesus says you are and settle it! Stop focusing on sin and believe you are holy, blameless, and above reproach. That’s what Jesus paid for. He purchased you with His blood-so thank Him by believing the gospel.
Reprobates exist. I am ONE of them. I'm sorry for my english, I'm French. God cursed me because I blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Long Story Short, i dealt with the Devil 20 years ago, this deal has been realized then I born Again then I blasphemed and finally, God cursed me. My story is very long, maybe 50 sheets of paper. I'm like you, other guys. I do not sleep, i can't repent, i have no joy or pride, i'm depressed and a day in my head is a day on a highway to hell. I'm surrounded by an athesit family who laugh at me when I talk about God. At best, they find it funny. At worst, they tell me everything will be fine when I'll get a job. I can't work anymore. I'm surrounded by happy and pride people who are happy and pride to go ... to Hell. I can't pray for any of them. I got a revelation few years years before my "born again" , it's quite difficult to translate it in english but "Your parents will perish" is the most accurate. I don't know how to save them. I don't know how to save myself. God did not give me over to a reprobate mind, he really cursed me... I praid, i saw priests, exorcists and pastors. I spent time with monks and evangelical churches, nothing changed. I'm doomed.
Dont go to anyone, munks or priest's or pastors. Instead, believe with your faith. He who believes Jesus is the Christ is born of God. Do you believe that? You are born of God.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and though shall be saved. Its as simple as your faith. Do you believe? Then though SHALL be saved. Thats a promise from God. You dont need any more than that sure promise and to believe it.
Romans 5 says righteousness to you is imputed by faith. If you believe on him who raised Jesus Christ our Lord, you get imputed righteousness.
My friend, ive been where you are and you can come back, but you have to do it trusting firmly in those promises. God said he will NEVER leave nor forsake you. Are you forsaken? That isnt from God then, because his word says, his sure word, his word says he will NEVER leave you. Its a lie to say he left you. His word says he wont.
God says if we confess our sins, he cleanses us, thats a promise. The devil seaks to devour you, but you need to trust and meditate on these promises and many others daily. Resist the devil and he will flee.
God wants NONE to perish but all come to the knowledge of the truth. That includes you and your parents. What you heard about your parents perishing is a lie. God wants none to perish.
Believe Gods word. Its all by faith. Faith is the belief of the things not yet seen, the things hoped for. Il pray for you
There is a Facebook group called Lamb's Recovery for people that believe they are reprobate who are trying to find redemption and be restored to the Father. I have been this way for over three years when I said "May God strike me dead if I am lying" and I was lying. I have felt the severity of God but I believe His word and God cannot lie. He said that anyone that comes to Him He will in no wise cast out. That means everyone including the reprobate.
You are correct. God will not cast you out. Resist the devil and he will flee
If you can only hold on to one verse, that is a mustard seed of faith. John 6:37 says, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out". We are part of the "all". Isaiah 54:7-9 says "For a brief moment I abandoned you, but with deep compassion I will bring you back. In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a moment,but with everlasting kindness I will have compassion on you,”says the Lord your Redeemer"
All Gods sinning children go through this darkness. King David, after his sin of murder and adultrey said "I said in my haste I am cut off".
David though he was cut off from God, he really wasnt but said he felt the pains of death.
Later in the Psalm it said that even though David was cut off in his mind that the Lord still heard his cries. The Lord will hide his face from us but he means go do this for our good. So we forsake sin. He doesnt it for our holiness.
He will bring all of you back. Stay strong in faith!
After reading a lot, all I know is if you have been truly truly born again, God will never let you go.
You can come back to God but it takes pleading and begging I think.
Reprobates I think are those who haven't been truly born again, but tasted the Holy Ghost like in Hebrews 6: 4-6
Unfortunately I think that's where I'm at.
But as for you guys I don't think anyone here is hopeless.
Just need to push through!
Rom 1:28-32 I think clarifies the heart of the reprobate. God has turned these people over to their sins to do what ought not to be done and as a result of God turning them over to their sins, they have as a result been “filled with all manner of of righteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity, whisperers, etc..” verse 32 says that they are people who know that they who do this evil deserve death, but these not only do them, but also approve of them who deserve them. It doesn’t sound like anyone here who’s worried they’re reprobate is like this, "this" being knowing the righteous judgements of God, but still sinning and approving of those who sin. These are men whose hearts have been stuffed full of unrighteousness and resist the truth “Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so too these also resist the truth.” (2Tim 3:8) I think that the fact many here are still concerned about God and getting back means it’s still possible to come back to Him, He hasn’t fully turned you over to your sins, which would result in this type of heart filled with all manner of unrighteousness and unable to go back to God. I think this is the condition that this blogpost is describing.
I am reporbated i have no hope i asked for healong and it came back defiled that is hell i live in fear and sorrow everyday. God chooses who to save we have no control if he doesn't call you then you are not his paul states it before the foundation of the world god choose i have lived an idoltress and sexually immoral life a d i hate myself for it evetyday i didn't u detstand i was that way. My mother was that way also they wete irrelgious and raised me worldly and immorally
God is still the God of impossible. His word says with man, it is impossible but with God all things are possible. God decides who will have eternal salvation and only He knows. Don't make the mistake I did and allow Satan to tell you God can't save you because He can. His shed blood on the cross was more than enough to pay for your sins. God said, "Return to me For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.
You are not God and you do not know the thoughts He has for you. Read Jeremiah 29:11 and speak it over yourself. Do not lose faith in the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Do you still feel this way?
Hey, I know its been 4 years but I am currently in this situation. How are you doing? How have the last couple of years been? Any hope? I feel like I am definitely condemned an I am just waiting for my punishment. Regret daily but no more hope.
Hi,
I saw your comments while reading through. I believe that I openly was given over to a reprobate mind for a few weeks to the point where I could not mourn a loved one that passed away. For weeks, I was tormented with all the sins and evil I had done in my lifetime and for the first time in my life, it seemed like I had lost my salvation. One time while trying to pray, I prayed "Dear Heavenly Father" , and I heard the words, "you're not my child, you're like your father the devil". I believed this only because I used to be a great liar. I also started reviewing my life and saw that I was a narcissist but because I went to church, I thought I was saved. I was tested by the Lord but I didn't pass the test. I also read the book of Jude which resonated with me and I got to understand that maybe I was one of the non-elect. I committed all the sins that lead to death... I know that there is no hope for me and I live with that regret everyday knowing that I will suffer both here on earth and in eternity.
If you repent of your sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all iniquity. We have to firmly trust in this promise. I assume you repented, if you did they I can guarantee your are forgiven, you have to trust in that forgiveness. The people in the book of Jude, you can only assume they never repented and don't want to!
Thank you for the reply although it looks like my original comment has been deleted. I truly pray that there is hope for me but all I think about everyday is eternal separation from God. I honestly felt that way a few months ago. Sometimes, I just want to go hide in a cave until the Lord calls my name but I don't think that'll be fair to my family. On the other hand, I'm living like a fraud.... I feel like I'm lying to everyone... and I'm waiting for something to happen... and I don't want to go to hell..
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